An intro to Vintage in Mississippi

[theshop]

In short, Vintage is a completely dead format in Mississippi. But I am interested in changing that.

I have a feeling that there were some issues regarding the way I tried to start a vintage tourny before with the league. I think I am going to take it a little easier now, if you will indulge me and read just a little...maybe we can have some fun!

I am currently living in Jackson and would be willing to get a location ready and provide the prize for an initial Vintage tourny at a location convenient for anyone else that wants to show up if we can get a little interest. I am open to suggestions and anticipate unlimited proxies.

Anyone have any ideas or interest in this? I was thinking about trying to do $10 entry, unlimited proxy, and have a Mana Drain or similar $100 prize for 1st if we can get enough people to show.

Let me know what you guys think. First and foremost, before me getting to play, whether or not I will break even, or all else - I want Mississippi to have a vintage community similar to those up north. These people are friends, they have fun, they help young and newer players, and they get to play a unique aspect of magic.

Dont believe the stereotypes. If you read a single tourny report, you will find that this format is not nearly as swingy or expensive (proxies) as the people who dont play it would have you believe.

PS - If there was a problem with the tournament or some issue that I am not aware of before, I sincerely apologies although I am not sure how I could have pissed someone off. Lets break through the barriers and find a way to enjoy all aspects of the game.

Best of luck on your existing concerns,

Nick
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[vanguardian]

Hey Nick,
May I make a suggestion?
I myself am not too interested in getting into Vintage for several reasons. One is that I just don't have the cards, and the second is that the cards you need for a vintage deck are really expensive. I think and alternative is to play Legacy. The only super expensive cards you need to have a decent Legacy deck are the duals I believe, so you don't have to worry about your Moxen and power 9. Also, while Legacy is a very fast format it is not as heavily stereotyped for the "first turn kill" that Vintage is stereotyped for. I've watched the format played some and I am myself became extremely interested in getting more into the format.
I don't know if you have a personal dislike for Legacy over Vintage, but I think for value-sake and maybe even as a gateway, Legacy is going to be the way to go.

Also, I DO want the MS magic crew to get more into other formats besides drafting and the occasional type 2. Doing so will really help your constructed play which is suffering right now.

[theshop]

I completely understand your feelings towards the format. However, there are a few mitigating factors at work here.

1) Nearly 100% of all vintage tournaments in the United States allow at least 10 proxies. Proxies are free. Personally, I do not have an issue with any amount of proxies.

How expensive would the average vintage deck be if you proxied:
4x Force of Will
6x Dual Lands
5x Moxes
1x Black Lotus
1x Ancestral Recall

As I own all of the cards in many of the decks other than these I can attest that a Vintage deck with this amount of proxying costs less than an average Legacy deck toting duals & sacs. Also, nothing is preventing a particularly thrifty player from proxying his full deck.

There are proxy guidelines to insure a reasonable level of clarity and understandibility of proxies.

2) The games are not nearly as quick as the stereotype. I have fought this particular stereotype my entire life. And when I showed up to the prerelease in Hattiesburg last year. The few players who had a chance to play Vintage with Don & I got to see that most games took in excess of 5 turns per.

On Legacy:

I have no problems with Legacy. But after having played some Legacy and after playing a stubstantial amount of Vintage, I have developed a clear personal preference.

Interestingly, If were to have an Unlimited Proxy Vintage tournament with no entry fee for a revised Underground Sea...I wonder if anyone would show? For those of you interested in Legacy, it may be notable that much of the Vintage prize support is playable in this other format. I am willing to try this if a place to have the tournament could be found.

Lastly, for those of you who have a newfound interest in Legacy. I am glad that eternal formats are garnering interest! But it is strange that people only took interest in Legacy (a format previously more dead than Vintage) when the new Grand Prixs came out. Clearly, the joy of Legacy itself over the joy of Vintage is not the motivational factor here.

Thanks for a reply!

[natedog08]

Honestly, I'll be down with either Vintage or Legacy if we can get it set up. I like the idea of unlimited proxies, because I know my collection doesn't go far past the 8th edition border change.

[kartheunlucky]

I have actually been interested in the Sneak Attack deck for a while. I'm not completely against giving it a shot.

[theshop]

How much does you guys current meeting room cost to get for a day?

[vanguardian]

What has two thumbs and loves Sneak Attack?
*points two thumbs at self*
THIS GUY!